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Gathering Of The Juggalos ICP Seminar Transcript

MUCH MUCH CLOWN LOVE TO DEAD CARNIE FOR TYPIN ALL THIS SHIT OUT!!!

Alex Abiss:
"Whut up ya'll? Goddamn there's a lot of juggalos in this motherfucker tonight. Well at this rate it won't be too long before we take over this whole motherfuckin world. And then we'll be tellin motherfuckers what the rules are and what time it is around this motherfuckin bitch. So check this out. This is some big big big shit that's about to drop so I'm just gunna cut right to the chase. I'm about to call up a very good, close personal friend of mine. Ya'll know him a little better as Violent J of the INSANE CLOWN POSSE!!!" (crowd chants "Joe Bruce")

Violent J:
"I can't, I can't see becuz of the stage lights but if ya'll got seats you're gunna have to sit down. I probably did, ah, probably like a thousand shows in my life and I, and I, I did the ICP, I did the seminar for this on Friday in a much smaller version but I gotta say I've never been this nervous in my life. Shaggy, Shaggy's doin the Mystery Seminar and he'll be here as soon as that's over with I promise. I'm just gunna tell you guys the way it is, the way it's goin down, the way it has gone down but, like , this is all I gotta say. This is it, man. I mean, ah, there's no, there's no, once we reveal the Sixth there's no turnin back. Like, in other words if it's wack, that's it, it's wack, ya know. We fucked up, ya know what I'm sayin? Hold up. Hold up. But on my mother's life, and on everybody's life here, as much as I love you, we did not fuck up. I wanna bring my friends up here. Twiztid, Sabu, Legs Diamond. Legs Diamond. Aight, (crowd chants "Family") I know, I know ya'll are talkin about each other, right, cuz that's what we are is family up in this mother. But it doesn't matter, ya know, that fuckin MTV ain't here. Ya know, it's been 10 years, I'm fuckin, I'm an old ass man. I'm fuckin 30 years old in this muh'fucker, ya know. Some of us got kids, but I swear to God if a bullet was to strike me dead right now I'd die a happy motherfucker. Somebody lost they arm. But basically, we're not, eh, what I'm tryin, I'm just gunna spit it to you. This is the seminar, this isn't a concert, we're not, ya know, I'm gunna tell it to you just like it is. For ten fuckin years we've been tellin a story, ya know, and, and, and, (*stutters a lot when nervous obviously*) we started this story there was nobody listenin. And to the world, there still isn't nobody listenin, ya know. But that was the fuckin idea, you see. All I know is I remember sayin when we first came out when I was 19 I remember sayin, there's gunna be a carnival, a dark fuckin carnival is gunna come and take this bitch over. After all six have risen, there's gunna be a fuckin carnival. Now what do you think the people of fuckin Peoria are thinkin about ya'll right now? Did we come through on the fuckin carnival at least or what? Look at us. But that ain't even what it's about.

"Cuz I love ya'll no matter what, a carnival, fuck, whatever. Listen, in 1991 we released our first album. It was called Carnival of Carnage. On it's release day it sold 17 copies. Now there's more than 17 motherfuckers in here. Now my point is that just like new juggalos that come along, maybe tomorrow maybe the next day, they haven't, they haven't, they don't know about the world we have, they don't know about the underground we have, you have to be able to accept them in the same way you were accepted in at some point. As long as they're real, ya know what I'm sayin, as long as they're real and understand what we're about, ya know they can still join in. Ya know, but the carnival...I'll get to that later. Anyway. I don't exactly know about how to go about this, ya know what I'm sayin? But it was me, Shaggy, and Alex in Alex's mom's basement and we bought a roll of duct tape this fuckin big (holds arms out like way big). It had to be for a piece of machinery or sumthin ya know like a fuckin factory and we said by the time we're done goin through this roll of tape we'll have to have a record deal cuz we would have shipped so many of these motherfuckers that we'll have to be fuckin able to get a record deal. Well that roll of duct tape went through like it wasn't shit. And when we first started out on Carnival of Carnage I don't even think you'll hear the word juggalo on it. We didn't know, we didn't know, what was ahead. We didn't know ourselves, we're not no fuckin prophets or super heroes. We're Joe and Joey, ya'll know that. But we said, just like when you fall in love with a bitch, ya know. It's like when your, when your really in love with a bitch, and you stub your toe or somethin, it only hurts half as bad, ya know what I mean? Cuz your like "yeah that's aight tho". Ya know what I'm sayin? Nothin really sucks that bad when your really in love, right? Well when this came out we had a reason to live all of a sudden. Ya know we fell in love, we fell in love with the dark carnival and what it was tellin us. I couldn't explain it but I think ya'll are probably in love with it too. Why do you guys get together and paint your faces and throw Faygo? We don't fuckin know. If that ain't a calling ya know what I'm sayin, if that ain't a calling why, what the fuck, what the hell do we do? We don't even know. So what would we have, what would be takin place at the Gathering? Fuck, we don't know. Wrestling, The Neden Game, we're pullin shit out of our ass, just to be together. Just to be together, just to be to-fuckin-gether cuz we know something's callin us together.

" In 1993 we released the second Jokers Card. It's called The Ringmaster. Now when The Ringmaster came out, that's when shit started comin a lil bit clearer. You know what I'm sayin, things started makin a lil bit more sense. I started to think like, um, I remember I used to walk to the PO Box everynight to see if there was any fan mail. And there was never no fan mail, ya know, and I'd walk back. And then I'd walk up there again, ya know, and I looked in the PO Box and there was a piece of fuckin somethin in there. So I'm like "FUCK!! Give me a quarter, I gotta call Alex!", ya know. I call Alex and Joey, they come fuckin runnin up there and it's a bill for the PO Box people. (Crowd chants "Joe Bruce") You guys are trying to make me break down and cry like a new born woman. When I was a kid , when I was a kid, they said if you step on a cracked tile in the hallway at school you have to kiss one of the Bruce brothers. So all the girls would walk down and dodge the cracked tiles, you know what I'm sayin. And now I got mu'fuckers chantin my name. I used to be afraid to tell people my name over summer vacation when I was meeting somebody somewhere for fear that my reputation from where I had lived had reached their fuckin city, you know what I'm sayin. So I'd be like "My name's Joe." "What's your last name?" "Why you need to know that?" But uh, The Ringmaster things started comin a lil clearer. I realized we were different, ya know. Nobody here, nobody here is an actual serial killer. That's purely speculation but, somethin about just bein a clown, being able to come out on stage and slip on my ass and not matter because I'm a clown, you know what I'm sayin? Or fuck up in any kind of way, it's ok if you're a clown. And everyday when everyone wakes up in the morning, ya know, and they pull their ass out of bed and they go in the bathroom, not talkin bout ya'll. They look in the mirror and they try to become somethin. They're like "What do I wanna be" ya know. The fuckin alternative kids they wanna be alternative so they put alternative clothes on and they become something they want to be perceived as. And the kids that wanna be gangsters or whatever, they put on their shit and they want to be perceived as. But some of us didn't know what the fuck we wanted to be perceived as. We didn't fit in anywhere. We were the fuckin clowns. It was like no matter what happened, it was like fuck them, they don't count, ya know. That's how I started feeling during Ringmaster. Me and Shaggy are like, man we sold 60,000 of these muh'fuckers. I was workin nights at a gas station, right. Ninjas are comin through for gas like "Aren't you Violent J?". I'm like "Hell naw. How much you want on pump 5? Quit playin." But we couldn't get a record deal, ya know. We still didn't understand fully.

" In 1995 we released the third Jokers Card, The Riddlebox. Now, we got a big record deal though. Here's what happened. Jive Records, you know they got Britney Spears, NSYNC, OffSYNC, fuckin Christina fuckin Anderson whatever all kind of fuckin TRL and all their homies, they signed us. They said "Wow, your last album sold 60,000 copies in Metro Detroit." and they were like "That's incredible.". And they were like "So we'll give you an advance of 60,000 dollars on your new album." And we're like, I ain't gotta tell ya'll how ecstatic we were at 60,000 dollars. Now I still am ecstatic about 60,000 dollars, I'm a broke muh'fucker. That's a whole nother seminar. What I'm sayin is I'm comin from a place where I used to, me and my brother Rob, Jumpsteady, we would take a can out of our fuckin cupboard and we would draw a little symbol on it like a ninja, or somethin, and we'd put it in the hunger barrel at school and it would come right back to our cupboards again. See what I'm sayin? I had to prove, these people bring this shit over every Thursday, Mom's never home, ya know we're in a fuckin hunger barrel, you know what I'm sayin? I'm like let's drop that bitch at school, you know what I mean. And then it comes back to my fuckin house and you know who delivers the fuckin food? This girl that my brother had this huge crush on and my brother answers the door and she's, ya know what I'm sayin? And this is only the luck of a fuckin Juggalo. Now, listen. Some of you might have been born millionaires, but I have no question each and every one of you have something exactly like that, some kind of situation I bet you everybody in here has been fucked over so many fuckin times. Wait a minute, wait a minute. I'm not talkin about like Limp Bizkit and Korn cry about. I'm talkin about REALLY fucked over. Like to the point where you don't wanna just say "I wanna break stuff". You wanna say "I wanna cut your fuckin throat out! Stab the fuckin shit out of you !!" Are you feelin me? (YEAH!!!) All this started comin into focus, ya know. The Riddlebox sold. It sold 60,000 again to the same Metro Detroit fan base, ya know. And we're like, we took the 60,000 dollars and we bought three vans and we painted them up like Riddlebox and we drove out to like fuckin Indianapolis, great Clown Town, but at the time it wasn't even in the stores, ya know. We're like wait a minute man, Jive signed us and just gave us a dollar a copy and put it right back out again in Detroit and only they made all the fuckin money off of it, you know what I'm sayin. And nobody even had the record. It wasn't even in stores at the time, anywhere else. So we got on the phone with Jive and we said "You know, kiss me." and he said "What?" and I said "Kiss me. I like to be kissed when I'm dead and fucked!! SPANK MY ASS OR SOMETHIN!!". Anyway, we put a blindfold on Alex. You guys this is Rich Murrel (goes to Legs Diamond). This is Legs Diamond, he sang backup on everything from Riddlebox up. He left a great band in Detroit to come be with us and work at Psychopathic Records. He's always stayed behind the scenes. A lot of the magick you hear is right there. Now, Rich remembers this, we wanted to prove that maybe their could be these crazy outcasts that, we're just now startin to call them Juggalos, whatever, these people that are feelin us, ya know, on the realness, not just the humor, the whatever, their feelin us, man, their like "We really fuckin feel ya'll man." And their coming up with tattoos and shit tryin to say "Yo, man, I like bands but man, your music ya know, " ya know they were feelin it. So I said this can't be a local thing so we blindfolded Alex and Alex threw a dart on a map and it landed on Dallas, Texas. So we drove the fuckin Riddlebox vans. Rich was there, I drove one, Shaggy stayed home lazy ass. He had a good reason I just don't remember. But we drove to Dallas and we fuckin pressed up with our 60,000 dollar vans we pressed up samplers and everyday at 3 o'clock our fuckin vans were at 3 different high schools in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area slangin them fuckin tapes, ya know what I'm sayin, slangin the fuck out of em, ya know, sayin "Does anybody feel us ? What do ya'll like in Dallas? We know there's somethin goin on in Detroit, what's up out here?" ya know. And most people were like "Fuck ya'll " ya know. We're used to that though. But there was a couple Juggalos we discovered. We spent 3 months in Dallas. 3 months. Next thing you know, Riddlebox had sold 60,000 records in Detroit and 40,000 in Dallas. So we're like "Let's throw another dart", ya know ? But only thing is we're havin trouble walkin cuz there's a dick in my ass. Jive still got their dickballs deep in our ass, ya know? I have a very homophobic way of puttin things, ya know. If there's any homosexuals or hermaphrodites or undecided people out there I'm not tryin to offend anybody. But, so anyway, at that point we told Jive we said "Look, we're from the streets. We'll straight up drive down there and whoop your asses, ya know what I'm sayin? Do you honestly think we care about a fuckin contract or somethin?" We didn't even know how to read that motherfucker. We just wanted the 60,000, ya know what I'm sayin? So we said "You'll never get another album out of us. We like this little label that we started, Psychopathic." I mean like, these fuckin idiots are takin, they don't what the fuck our, they don't know what we're goin after. Because they're not part of it. They're a fuckin major record label. They could fuck with Sugar Ray. It wasn't, they weren't on our page.

"So in 1997 another record label owned by Disney calls us up, Rich remembers all of this, calls us up and he's like "Look, we know what ya'll are doin. We know what ya'll did in Detroit, we know what ya'll did in Dallas, we know what you're doin in St. Louis now." And this guy was sincere. He was a Juggalo. Straight up. He really knew all the shit and he said "We're owned by Disney. We can do anything we want." And I said "Ya'll put out the pussiest shit I ever fuckin heard. You could never fuck with the Wicked Shit." And their like "Listen, we own Miramax films. We put out like all kind of ruthless ass shit. "Natural Born Killers". We own that. People don't know Disney owns that. But Disney does. They own Miramax films. And we're a record label. We put out whatever we want." So we were like "Oh yeah?" and their like "Yeah, we want you to do the Wicked Shit."

"So out came The Great Milenko. The Great Milenko was pulled out of record stores the day it came out because Disney found out and spanked up the label and said "You can't put that shit out." Meanwhile, they payed us for the muh'fuckin album. Right, so we already got payed for it so we're like "Psychopathic in the house, Psychopathic in the house, Psychopathic in the house." So we're like we don't need em, ya know what I'm sayin? But like all these labels start biddin, you know, they're like all this press is goin on, ya know, boom this band gets dropped, who are they, blah blah blah. They're unheard of. I'm like "Unheard of? Fuck you, there's a hundred thousand Juggalos out there. Just cuz ya'll never heard of us, fuck ya'll." ya know. Anyway, we signed a distribution deal with this label Island Records. At the same time we met like Twiztid. So at this point in our lives, me and Alex and Joey, we were kinda like ya know just let the record label put the shit in the stores, we'll handle it from there, ya know what I'm sayin? Cuz they don't know what the fuck their doin, ya know what I mean? So we started hiring our homies and buildin Psychopathic. I'm talkin ex-gang members, fuckin people that got felonies, and just, our homes, ya'll. And we put out the Great Milenko, it got dropped, it got picked up. It got a lot of exposure. I'm just gunna get to the chase cuz I know that's what motherfuckers want.(Juggalos tell Joe to keep goin) Aight, so Milenko came out and um with all the exposure and we went on a big tour, and this thing came....ok when Milenko first came out the first week of it's release again the second release it sold 17,000 copies, right. And that was the same thing it had sold when it got pulled out of record stores. So Island was like what happened to the big publicity splash, we thought everybody'd buy it like they did "Cop Killer", remember that? With Ice T's band. And their like nobody fuckin bought it, ya know. What the fuck? And we're like "We dunno. Ya'll gave us a million dollars. You think I give a fuck, you know what I'm sayin? We know the Juggalos are out there, they've got it, that's all I give a fuck about. I don't know about your fan rush. I don't know about your rush of million fuckin fans that all of a sudden wanna be down." We got the Juggalos, ya know. 100,000. I'm cool as fuck with that. But they ran this documentary on MTV. They bought the time in an auction. And they ran Shockumentary on MTV. This is in 1997. And there happened to be a lot of people, a lot of brothers and sisters like ya'll, watching and feeling that shit, and The Great Milenko went platinum. Took 2 years but it went platinum. But I was also noticin, I can't front, there was a lot of bullshit mu'fuckin Backstreet people, you know what I'm sayin? And their comin up "I'm down with the clown, dawg." And I'm like "I don't know, muh'fucker." "Man I am a motherfuckin Juffalo, I swear it." And I'm like , ya know, a lot of times I was just like "Fuck ya'll" and left stages and shit cuz it just got to the point where they didn't know nothin but Milenko and it was just a weird era and I didn't like the ya know, and then weird things started happening. Like we became "stars". So like all of a sudden David Arquette, you know who that is? David Arquette gives us a call, "Yea, I wanna have lunch with you guys." I'm like "I know about a hundred thousand Juggalos who would prolly like to have lunch with us. Who the fuck are you?" You know, you see what I'm sayin? Not to diss David Arquette but I don't give a fuck if you made an AT&T commercial. And then like we'd be at a show and they'd say yea you know 2 of the fuckin Broncos are out there. Denver Broncos or whatever. They wanna meet ya'll. Denver in the house all day but I'm like what the fuck am I gunna say to a football player, ya know? "Oh, so you play football and you're the shit, and I rap and I'm the shit. What's up? Now we're down." ya know. Fuck all that. It just, I don't fit in with that shit, none of us do. So, we spent the money with the quickness. Bought a couple wrestling wrings, oriental health spas, a lot of Nyquil. I'm not gunna lie.

"In 1999, with this new label, we released the fifth Jokers Card, The Amazing Jeckel Brothers. I'm not gunna sit up here and explain what every Jokers Card is and what it means cuz you guys already know that. And by me sittin up here at the Juggalo Gathering and tryin to do that would be like insultin ya'll. If there's somebody in the room who don't know what it means you're in the wrong fuckin place. "

(Shaggy Shows Up)

Shaggy:
"What up Juggalos? Carry on."

Violent J:
"So, ah, Twiztid, their story speaks for itsself, ya know. They do their own tours, they're puttin out their own artists. We are spreading, we started a label. It's workin, it's music. It can't be defined. I don't wanna try to fuckin name it, ya know what I'm sayin? It's just Juggalo shit all day, ya know. And sometimes if we fuck up, we fuck up, ya know? Cuz we're still learnin. It's not over yet ya'll. But it's time for the Sixth Jokers Card. My knees are weak. I'm just gunna tell ya'll what it is, ya know. It's like. Listen, I started smokin weed about a year ago. Let the truth be known it was Blaze that got me started."

(Blaze Comes Out)

Blaze:
"I got one question for you J, though. Where the weed at?"

(Juggalo in Crowd Pulls Out Blunt)

Violent J:
"He got a foot long joint. (Laughs) He said fire it up. Man that would have to be a long ass joint by the time it made it back to you. But anyway, I told ya'll that because I figured I'm just gunna correct every wrong in my life, ya know, and the only wrong I had to correct was tellin my brother cuz we made a pact when we were little kids. My sister was a fuckin crack whore, ya know, and we always vowed we'd never touch drugs. And my brother kept the oath and I didn't. I fell apart. I went to this insanity place and just fuckin lost it for a minute, you know what I'm sayin? But then I found that Herbery and I got right."

(At this point Violent J puffs on the blunt, passes it to Monoxide Child who then passes it to Jamie Madrox. )

Violent J:
"It's comin. You'll get it, hold on. Puff Puff Give, mu'fukers it's comin."

(Jamie passes to Blaze who passes to Shaggy)

Shaggy:
"I don't even smoke weed but fuck it, I'm smokin wit ya'll."

(Shaggy hands off to Sabu who hands off to Legs Diamond who hands off to Rude Boy. Rude Boy tries to hand back to J)

Violent J:
"Wait, wait. Pass it to the camera man."

(Rude Boy passes to Camera man #1)

Violent J:
"He's like, Camera man looked at me like, camera man looked at me like "What's my name? Skip?""

(Rude Boy then passes to Camera Man #2. Blunt returns to Juggalo.)

Violent J:
"Aight, anyway, back to what we were sayin, man. Now, for the last 8 months me and Shaggy, we disappeared. But I want ya'll to know, we was out there. We was watchin ya'll. We was on that Twiztid Tour (Mirror rorriM). We went and recorded down in Dallas, we recorded in Las Vegas, we recorded in Chicago, we recorded in Indianapolis, Nashville, and at night I'd sit on the internet and I'd watch ya'll talk. Not the people in the room but I'd watch people talk. And I'd read the horrible things they say, ya know. Like some of the shit I read was like earth shattering, ya know. It hurt so bad. And you figured the mu'fuckers would talk the most shit when you're in hiding and you can't do nothin about it, ya know what I'm sayin? That's when they wanna talk the most shit. But, ah"

(Loud Speaker comes on)

Loud Speaker:
"Attention all Juggalos, attention all Juggalos, Hall C is now closed." (Said somethin else too but couldn't understand - who gives a shit anywayz)

Violent J:
"Fuck Hall C and what's goin on over there. We're talkin about something right here. Now check this out, Imma tell ya'll what the Sixth is and ah, I gotta be honest we didn't make the Sixth to ah, make the people that like the Wicked Shit happy, or the people that like the rock n roll shit happy, or the people that like the rap shit happy. We made the Sixth the way the Dark Carnival wanted it. And that's exactly how it is. It's different, aight. It's different. But I want ya'll to know somethin. And it's the hardest thing I've ever had to say. But me and Shaggy have talked about it. Me and Twiztid, and the whole family. We stand behind the Sixth Jokers Card. When it comes out on November 5th, and this is what we ask, after you take it home and you listen to it, either you're with us, or forget us. Because we stand behind every fuckin lyric on that record. And just so ya'll know, every good idea we ever had on all these fuckin Joker Cards, every really bomb ass idea we had, we said "Naw, we'll save that for the Sixth." Juggalos, Juggalettes, to be honest I really don't like that word cuz I don't want you to think we only mean dudes when we say 'Juggalos'. It means everybody. But i'm down with it, ya know. I mean I'd rather fuck a Juggalette than a Juggalo. But ya'll know what I'm sayin. I'm tryin to stall here cuz I'm a lil bit nervous. So Tyson got his ass kicked, huh? Ahh, I figured that. Fuckin Eric Bishof's in WWF. Aight, ya'll.

"There's one sixth joker's card, and theres two versions. The sixth joker's card is called, the Wraith. And the Wraith is death, A.K.A. the grim reaper, A.K.A whatever the fuck, death. There are, the sixth jokers card is the Wraith. There are two versions. the Wraith has come, and when you die, I hope never, the Wraith is gonna take your hand, and he's gonna take you somewhere, and it's either gonna be shangri-la, or it's gonna be Hell's Pit. What the sixth jokers is, is the Wraith's exhibit of both. On November 5th, first, the Wraith's exibit of Shangri-la will be released. Exactly, one year later, the Wraith's exibit of Hell's Pit will be released. Now, theres a difference between the two records, on the Wraith's exbit of Hell's Pit, the word Juggalo, is never mentioned once. Because I dont wanna see one fuckin Juggalo in Hell's Pit. And this is the darkest, most evilest, hideous, wickidest album ever made. And over here in shangri-la, this is for thefew (shangrila), this is for the many (hells pit) this is for the few (shangrila). Everybody had an idea or a speculation or a fuckin, a hope or whatever they hoped it was,But the bottom line is, this is the Insane Clown Posse talking to the Juggalos that exist now and today. And this is the Insane clown posse talkin to the world (hells pit). And we got a lot of fuckin shit to say to the world. But before we tell the world to eat a dick, we gotta tell the Juggalos how much we love em. There are incredible, amazing special guests, onthese albums. I'll name them right now, starting off, the band Zug Izland makes an appearance. Blaze Ya Dead Homie makes an appearance. The Anybody Killa makes an appearance. TWIZTID, makes an appearance. And the way me and Shaggy looked at it, nobody else was worthy enough to make an appearance. And to sum it all up, on the sixth jokers card tip, what happens after that, is purely, speculation.

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